ziutek 2 Posted May 1, 2022 Hi, nerf daggers nothing to add in every fights there is 20 daggers other class are dead beacuse o this. Tanky , mobilty and deadly nothing to add. ratio of leathal is to big plus most of the skills on dagger are broken (backstab on face) thx balance this class. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jester 14 Posted May 1, 2022 And do the same with the mages .Why would anyone play other class other than mage .Dagger is the only option left beside mage . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poperus 0 Posted May 1, 2022 Mages can't run into crowds of people tanking, while dealing 8k lethal blows. I understand mages deal heavy damage but that's only chars with little to no resists. I have been farming for 2 days now, and some random level 1 dagger runs up to me, presses f1 and kills me. Is this fair? No. This class is clearly broken, you can either be a tank or a damage dealer, not fucking both. I will be moving onto another server. Enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poperus 0 Posted May 1, 2022 There are plenty of other classes, gladiator, tyrant archer, Of course mages are going to be most powerful in the beginning of the season they always are. Not to mention archers are not even all that bad to play right now, even without focus. I got crit by a GS for over 4k. You should not be able to tank an entire faction while dealing these ridiculous amounts of damage, it's fucking insane. Who wants to spawn only to be fucking targeted by 30 daggers? Anybody else find this fun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jester 14 Posted May 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Poperus said: There are plenty of other classes, gladiator, tyrant archer, Of course mages are going to be most powerful in the beginning of the season they always are. Not to mention archers are not even all that bad to play right now, even without focus. I got crit by a GS for over 4k. You should not be able to tank an entire faction while dealing these ridiculous amounts of damage, it's fucking insane. Who wants to spawn only to be fucking targeted by 30 daggers? Anybody else find this fun? so we should take "mages are the most powerfull " for granted and we should ride with that slogan .Any other class that dares to be powerfull other than mage needs be nerfed .Gotcha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poperus 0 Posted May 1, 2022 IT INTERLUDE GO PLAY DIFF FUCKING CHRONICLE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poperus 0 Posted May 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jester said: so we should take "mages are the most powerfull " for granted and we should ride with that slogan .Any other class that dares to be powerfull other than mage needs be nerfed .Gotcha. Poweful or outright imbalanced? I deal massive amounts of damage, because I am susceptible to massive amounts of damages. Can't say the same for daggers you just run in blind folded and starting spamming fucking buttons knowing you're going to land a lethal regardless front or back. I've read your posts and it's almost as if you want to change the chronicle entirely. Complaining about titans ect, go play H5 where they have fucking teleports. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poperus 0 Posted May 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, Jester said: so we should take "mages are the most powerfull " for granted and we should ride with that slogan .Any other class that dares to be powerfull other than mage needs be nerfed .Gotcha. Is there not going to be a class that is "the most powerful" ? Lol? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poperus 0 Posted May 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Jester said: so we should take "mages are the most powerfull " for granted and we should ride with that slogan .Any other class that dares to be powerfull other than mage needs be nerfed .Gotcha. You ever mass pvp? Explain to me the parties you see in these mass pvp gatherings. Simply archer parties and mage parties. Dagger parties are fucking unheard of as Daggers have no place in mass PVP in interlude and never will, so the more you idiots keep fucking editing classes and complaining the more you are taking away from the game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poperus 0 Posted May 1, 2022 As the number of players decreases, which it clearly is, Daggers are just becoming more broken. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jester 14 Posted May 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Poperus said: Mages can't run into crowds of people tanking, while dealing 8k lethal blows. I understand mages deal heavy damage but that's only chars with little to no resists. I have been farming for 2 days now, and some random level 1 dagger runs up to me, presses f1 and kills me. Is this fair? No. This class is clearly broken, you can either be a tank or a damage dealer, not fucking both. I will be moving onto another server. Enjoy. Do mage have to run into crowds ?You sound like an idiot .U compare 900 range class to a 0 range class .Just go play and stop talking . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zapplix 14 Posted May 1, 2022 Daggers have been fine and even more powerful with shadow step and invisibility. In c6 they had more dps potential due a lack of mobility. Taking into account private server's lack of directional damage computation, daggers are even stronger than in vanilla c6. But OvC is custoom and has a lot of moded stats on top of that making it an entirely different game. It's possible to reach simmilar soft stats as a heavy armour class like gladiator; and daggers are basically skill spamming tanks as far as "builds" go here in OvC. Mages are ranged and apply flat burst damage. If a dagger invests in p def, m def to stay alive longer, a mage is all damage and no survivability other than positioning - typical glass canon. Due to all the custoom features, the only utility spells that might aid mages suitability get less and less effective as server progresses into bigger number territory. The real problem of c6 are archers. Lineage 2 was always auto attack (AA) focused for a long time ( just to sum up all boss jevel bonuses in general, etc). And you go into ridiculous number territory by increasing numbers even further due custoom features like long lasting songs/dances etc. You get a ranget class that hits like a truck and has little to do other than press F1 like a monkey. Having the longest AA ranges and ability to shoot on the move while retaining defenses on pair with dagger classes is BiS engame class by farr. A BiS mage wont survive nor farm as much kills as an archer can with healer support. So in conclusion; play classes depending on maps. But in the end of things, ranged classes will still farm more due the nature of pvp itself and the rest is just oly only fluf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zirconium 80 Posted May 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Poperus said: Mages can't run into crowds of people tanking, while dealing 8k lethal blows. I understand mages deal heavy damage but that's only chars with little to no resists. I have been farming for 2 days now, and some random level 1 dagger runs up to me, presses f1 and kills me. Is this fair? No. This class is clearly broken, you can either be a tank or a damage dealer, not fucking both. I will be moving onto another server. Enjoy. random dagger runs towards you and oress f1 and kills ya cause your frkin newb , that's why . It's not about the daggers . Fuk Daggers they're fresh meat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N2B 6 Posted May 2, 2022 Just check which classes are in the top 10 with most kills in every map. The lists are always filled with mages and archers. Daggers cant farm as much kills as mages can. If you think about nerf (delete) daggers, i suggest to make the server ONLY mages & archers. To not to be able to pick other class in the creation menu! (it would be more legit) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jester 14 Posted May 2, 2022 Delete bishops .They are the real cancer to the server . 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites