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Expert's Dexterity: +4 Accuracy, +2 Evasion.
Expert's Haste: +3% Attack Speed, +3% Cast Speed.
Expert's Stamina: +5% Max HP, +5% Max MP.
Expert's Endurance: +7% Max CP.
Expert's Wind Walk: +3 Speed.
Expert's Perception: +15 Critical Rate, x2 Magic Critical Rate.
Expert's Power: +3% Physical Power, +5% Magical Power.
Expert's Gold Digger: +50% Adena Income.
Expert's Shield: +5% Physical Defense.
Expert's Magic Barrier: +5% Magical Defense.
Expert's Divine Inspiration: +1 Buff Slot.
Expert's Summon Empower: +15% P.Def./M.Atk./M.Def./Atk.Spd./Cast Spd., +20% Max HP, +50% P.Atk., +5 Speed, +6 Accuracy, +4 Evasion, +30 Critical Rate, +30 Resistance.

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Could you please explain this " Expert's Gold Digger: +50% Adena Income."? What is the exact effect and in which cases it will apply?

For example:

Does this effect event reward adena?

Does this effect voting reward adena?

Does it effect the adena income for assisting a kill? If yes, in what proportion?

Does it effect the adena income for killing an event mob?

Does it effect the adena income for an achievement?

Does it effect the adena if I sell my items :D?

Does it effect the adena income for killing a player solo?

 

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We already hit summoners by 200 with magic :( Now look at that passive. What the hell !!! :dw1_5: Can mages use it too? otherwise it's a notorial defeat by the summoners QQing :/ You nerfed them for a reason. :yuno:
On a wizard that passive would be amazing!!! No more 3k by damn archers :dw1_4:

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8 minutes ago, UmaruChan said:

We already hit summoners by 200 with magic :( Now look at that passive. What the hell !!! :dw1_5: Can mages use it too? otherwise it's a notorial defeat by the summoners QQing :/ You nerfed them for a reason. :yuno:
On a wizard that passive would be amazing!!! No more 3k by damn archers :dw1_4:

Summon Empower is not a passive skill... is an active one exclusive to the summon only that also takes 1 buff slot... last season summon's were dealing like 200-300 dmg to A mages, the buff or boost to this class is absolutely necessary to make this 3 classes playable. :elf2_14:

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That was last season, previous seasons when pony hit you for 2.5 k and you gave 200 dmg to a summoner with nukes, does it look somewhere near balanced to you?:serious: Plus the servitor healing and nonstop bane... They run like retards and pony sweeps you, while your 200 dmg ofc won't be nowhere near enough. I don't know what's the solution to that. :dw1_6: That's why they were nerfed and i can't believe gm boosted them for 2 people complaining but meh, let's see what kind of OP they get :P i hope it's not too much

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2 hours ago, UmaruChan said:

That was last season, previous seasons when pony hit you for 2.5 k and you gave 200 dmg to a summoner with nukes, does it look somewhere near balanced to you?:serious: Plus the servitor healing and nonstop bane... They run like retards and pony sweeps you, while your 200 dmg ofc won't be nowhere near enough. I don't know what's the solution to that. :dw1_6: That's why they were nerfed and i can't believe gm boosted them for 2 people complaining but meh, let's see what kind of OP they get :P i hope it's not too much

Did u know that Summon's Crit rate is Capped at 100 Max that's 10% Chance 1/10 , you are telling me it's not fair that a Summon hits 2,5k to a  Robe User that probably uses Berseker and Magnus or Pow 1 out of 10 hits minimum... Servitor Healing has a  range of  600 if  a  Summoner its always that close to the summon it will always be destroyed by the ppl so Spamming servitor healing its not possible. "They Run like retards" so Archers And Mages can kite (quit) but summoners not  ^^. 200 dmg obviously to a class that can put +4 men from dyes and btw 200 must be without surrender/gloom and vortex and obviously the classic cancel. 

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3 hours ago, UmaruChan said:

That was last season, previous seasons when pony hit you for 2.5 k and you gave 200 dmg to a summoner with nukes, does it look somewhere near balanced to you?:serious: Plus the servitor healing and nonstop bane... They run like retards and pony sweeps you, while your 200 dmg ofc won't be nowhere near enough. I don't know what's the solution to that. :dw1_6: That's why they were nerfed and i can't believe gm boosted them for 2 people complaining but meh, let's see what kind of OP they get :P i hope it's not too much

What pony hit you for 2.5k damage? GMpony? cause that would be the only pony that could deliver that amount of damage. And you hit summoner for 200 cause of transfer pain. So it's 400 not 200. Normal damage if the summoner have M.def rebirths and jewels +6/7. Stop being a crybaby or get a tissue. 

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So this expert skills are the replacement of rebirth skills or u can have them both?

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Can you stack the same skill three times like the old rebirth skills? Cause some of them are pretty much worthless if you can't stack them.

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2 hours ago, Agent said:

So this expert skills are the replacement of rebirth skills or u can have them both?

Its a replacement to rebirth.

1 hour ago, midfekar said:

Can you stack the same skill three times like the old rebirth skills? Cause some of them are pretty much worthless if you can't stack them.

No, now you choose 4 different skills.

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That's what it seems like to me. Nukers nerfed since they cant stack cast speed, while most melle classes just went full speed, so this gives them additional power, while dagger basically loses a few speed for more defenses.

 

While nukers endgame are pretty weak compared to daggers/archers. Next season will be a full archer/dagger season in my opinion. This inadvertently nerfs titans as well since titans went full run speed rebirths to be able to chase people, now they cant stack damage (due to dmg cap) or need atk speed since zealot gives alot.

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5 hours ago, midfekar said:

Can you stack the same skill three times like the old rebirth skills? Cause some of them are pretty much worthless if you can't stack them.

This. also what scaretactic is true , i'm pretty sure none of us want to see an archer vs dagger Endgame season.. plus this limited too much the possible combinations of rebirths.. at the end of the day pvp wise every1 will have the same rebirth combination..  since like midfekar say some of them are pretty much worthless if you can't stack them.

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I like it too,its more balanced and no more stackable rebirths wich were close to op such cast for mages or

,ww for dagger(powi)/titan,dedxterity for archers and p def/mdef for daggers/bishops.

From what i see this new expert skills +1 buffslot and +50% gold income its 2 must.The other 2 u can take are acording to classes you play.Im a little concern about rebirth x2 m crit rate.This may be better than what full cast had to offer.I can tell that from tests the max m crit that can be achieved is ~1/6.With this new x2 m crit rate they could 1/3 in theory. Wich is maybe a little op?

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14 hours ago, Scaretactic said:

That's what it seems like to me. Nukers nerfed since they cant stack cast speed, while most melle classes just went full speed, so this gives them additional power, while dagger basically loses a few speed for more defenses.

 

While nukers endgame are pretty weak compared to daggers/archers. Next season will be a full archer/dagger season in my opinion. This inadvertently nerfs titans as well since titans went full run speed rebirths to be able to chase people, now they cant stack damage (due to dmg cap) or need atk speed since zealot gives alot.

Nukers being weaker than dagger/archer endgame is normal since they are stronger than anything elses since server start till midgame(a/s grade without epics).Only in endgame they loose some edge.Wich means they have lower chances to kill rogues.But mages end game are still frag machines.I never tried play specialised mage here but no one can tell me otherwise since its proven time and time again they can achieve 50-60-70-80 frags.They dont need kill dagger/archer in 1 vs 1 wich isnt a tragedy for them,its normal and as intended.Also about mages i see many cry because of archer,but what they expect when in 900 range fights its about 1 nuke vs 1 arrow if archer backstep for kite.Full cast and dc wont help in this situations.Maybe mages need learn reduce from handicap such investing in a ma +6 also and use it situational.They play too confortable,i play titan people say its f1 but i use 2 sets tallum and ic its situational.Mages should do same....and maybe invest in some rebirth pdef also,full cast was a killer vs newbie fighters only.

I also think titan need a change with this damage cap.Since i play specialised titan i want see the difference i invenst in my gear.I dont want see that me titan with +10 hd to have same damage cap as someone with ipos+4...its not normal.Just nerf frenzy in power attack to a decent amount and remove damage cap.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Agent said:

Nukers being weaker than dagger/archer endgame is normal since they are stronger than anything elses since server start till midgame(a/s grade without epics).Only in endgame they loose some edge.Wich means they have lower chances to kill rogues.But mages end game are still frag machines.I never tried play specialised mage here but no one can tell me otherwise since its proven time and time again they can achieve 50-60-70-80 frags.They dont need kill dagger/archer in 1 vs 1 wich isnt a tragedy for them,its normal and as intended.Also about mages i see many cry because of archer,but what they expect when in 900 range fights its about 1 nuke vs 1 arrow if archer backstep for kite.Full cast and dc wont help in this situations.Maybe mages need learn reduce from handicap such investing in a ma +6 also and use it situational.They play too confortable,i play titan people say its f1 but i use 2 sets tallum and ic its situational.Mages should do same....and maybe invest in some rebirth pdef also,full cast was a killer vs newbie fighters only.

I also think titan need a change with this damage cap.Since i play specialised titan i want see the difference i invenst in my gear.I dont want see that me titan with +10 hd to have same damage cap as someone with ipos+4...its not normal.Just nerf frenzy in power attack to a decent amount and remove damage cap.

 

 

So you are not f1 player cause you use two armors? Oh mate that makes your titan gameplay too complex...How can you manage to do that??? You using bot/scripts or what? Please explain cause i read what you're writing and it's like i'm reading Nicolas Tesla's projects. You talking about crying when YOU as player/person made TISSUE companies BILLIONAIRES.Please educate us with your lineage 2 experience , please share your light of wisdom you got inside of you. 

 

P.S

Oh, i forgot..you press the "next target" F.

Fuckouttahere.

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18 minutes ago, yamadaismyb1tch said:

So you are not f1 player cause you use two armors? Oh mate that makes your titan gameplay too complex...How can you manage to do that??? You using bot/scripts or what? Please explain cause i read what you're writing and it's like i'm reading Nicolas Tesla's projects. You talking about crying when YOU as player/person made TISSUE companies BILLIONAIRES.Please educate us with your lineage 2 experience , please share your light of wisdom you got inside of you. 

 

P.S

Oh, i forgot..you press the "next target" F.

Fuckouttahere.

PvP even in interlude its more than f1-autoattack.Only reduce minded people speak like this.What does it matter that titan has 1 button for attack instead 3 such dagger/mage?Im getting iritating already when people try to disconsider class as easy.Its not easy and i dont need speak about it,its prooven each season when players that play titan are bellow 5-10% and from all those that try titan 90% reroll back to easy more confortable class mage/archer/dagger.

F1 its more like a joke,pvp include more than attack phase through buttons press doesnt matter its 1 or 3.

I played tyrr in grand crusade and had so many skills to use but still doesnt matter after a while everything its automating and mucle memory even in this case.

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5 minutes ago, Agent said:

PvP even in interlude its more than f1-autoattack.Only reduce minded people speak like this.What does it matter that titan has 1 button for attack instead 3 such dagger/mage?Im getting iritating already when people try to disconsider class as easy.Its not easy and i dont need speak about it,its prooven each season when players that play titan are bellow 5-10% and from all those that try titan 90% reroll back to easy more confortable class mage/archer/dagger.

F1 its more like a joke,pvp include more than  than attack phase through button dpesnt matter its 1 or 3.

Yes, it's bellow cause who the fuck is going to play titan in a pvp server. Not pvp/craft. Just pvp server. And if they do as you say they reroll back cause they ain't got the gear or the two bishops and one or two OL's behind them. And don't tell me that ain't true cause i was there. A real babayaga don't need supports. It's a killer by nature. You from the other hand without supports, you're just another crybaby.Most of the mages/daggers/archers didn't really know how to play their characters. They were killing cause of their gear(OE weapon/epic jewels/augments).

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4 minutes ago, yamadaismyb1tch said:

Yes, it's bellow cause who the fuck is going to play titan in a pvp server. Not pvp/craft. Just pvp server. And if they do as you say they reroll back cause they ain't got the gear or the two bishops and one or two OL's behind them. And don't tell me that ain't true cause i was there. A real babayaga don't need supports. It's a killer by nature. You from the other hand without supports, you're just another crybaby.Most of the mages/daggers/archers didn't really know how to play their characters. They were killing cause of their gear(OE weapon/epic jewels/augments).

I think we are done talking.You are another idiot.U said titan was too easy because f1 autoattack.Now u disconsider and offend this class and u say its not pvp class.Its ok many idiots make this mistake and think same as u but i can assure titan its pvp class,and only morons think titan is just pve class.

 

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3 minutes ago, Agent said:

I think we are done talking.You are another idiot.U said titan was too easy because f1 autoattack.Now u disconsider and offend this class and u say its not pvp class.Its ok many idiots make this mistake and think same as u but i can assure titan its pvp class,and only morons think titan is just pve class.

 

Okay you're absolutely right!!! It's a pvp machine character.Now let's pretend that we play a normal server and we're getting ready for an epic boss fight. I let you choose the boss..In which party you will join for the fight with the titan? Or should i say better , which party will accept you with the tittan?

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16 minutes ago, yamadaismyb1tch said:

Okay you're absolutely right!!! It's a pvp machine character.Now let's pretend that we play a normal server and we're getting ready for an epic boss fight. I let you choose the boss..In which party you will join for the fight with the titan? Or should i say better , which party will accept you with the tittan?

In normal server no party ramdomly,if titan respects himself he wouldnt go with random healers and other types of dd other than melee setup.Normal rates its about cp and not random parties.

Btw for a class u said its not pvp class i had at least several top 1 playing mainly titan here in l2ovc both interlude and hi5.Previous season i reach arround 15-20 k pvps ,99% of those pvp were without healers,just in the end i abused more suports when server was in his terminal phase and was more with archer than titan actually..So much for a class wich isnt pvp class in your opinion.Your claims that titan isnt pvp class and i can play only with suport were just thrown on the window.

 

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4 minutes ago, Agent said:

In normal server no party ramdomly,if titan respects himself he wouldnt go with random healers and other types of dd other than melee setup.Normal rates its about cp and not random parties.

Btw for a class u said its not pvp class i had at least several top 1 playing mainly titan here in l2ovc both interlude and hi5.Previous season i reach arround 15-20 k pvps ,90% of those pvp were without healers.So much for a class wich isnt pvp class in your opinion.Your claims that titan isnt pvp class and i can play only with suport were just thrown on the window.

 

Oh now we talking about normal rates and cp stuff..okay!! I thought we were talking about pvp server , my bad! Are we still talking about Interlude , cause yes i know next chronicles the gameplay of titan changes a lot. And for 15-20k pvp you say...bitch please....cnig69,horzelius  and more players had much more pvp than you before they quit and they were mages.You continued playing and killing random newbies with no gear at fortress events and small maps generally. Everytime a big map was picked you were crying at HV and you didn't even join. After lot's of tears and tissues you rerolled to archer so you can play with the other kids too.I know it's hard...the truth you know..it's like a pain in the ass.  

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8 minutes ago, yamadaismyb1tch said:

Oh now we talking about normal rates and cp stuff..okay!! I thought we were talking about pvp server , my bad! Are we still talking about Interlude , cause yes i know next chronicles the gameplay of titan changes a lot. And for 15-20k pvp you say...bitch please....cnig69,horzelius  and more players had much more pvp than you before they quit and they were mages.You continued playing and killing random newbies with no gear at fortress events and small maps generally. Everytime a big map was picked you were crying at HV and you didn't even join. After lot's of tears and tissues you rerolled to archer so you can play with the other kids too.I know it's hard...the truth you know..it's like a pain in the ass.  

Its ok in 1st 2 weeks mages to take the lead.But harder after that to keep the pace with top fighters.Anyway u said titan aint pvp class this must be the joke of the week.

http://imgur.com/a/xh1Np

Anyway i dont want to brag and also dont need proove myself to a nobody like you.Just wanted to prove u wrong with your idiotic claims bye.

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6 minutes ago, Agent said:

Its ok in 1st 2 weeks mages to take the lead.But harder after that to keep the pace with top fighters.Anyway u said titan aint pvp class this must be the joke of the week.

http://imgur.com/a/xh1Np

Anyway i dont want to brag and also dont need proove myself to a nobody like you.Just wanted to prove u wrong with your idiotic claims bye.

You just confirmed what i said with this photo.Thanks a lot. 

 

P.S.

Don't call yourself top fighter cause you're not even close. Even the words "top fighter" are laughing with you when you spell them.

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